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MusicYo 1984 vs recent 1984

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  1. Tuborgmann

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    Is the headstock shape and size the same on the MusicYo 1984 and the recent Gibson the 84?
     
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    Visually they're the same. Regarding materials and parts, totally different.
     
  3. Tuborgmann

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    Thanks, i thought the headstock looked a bit smaller on the Yo but i think youre right. I just got a MusicYo 1984 yesterday and i really like it, chunky neck, german floyd, schaller tuners. This one has a bareknuckle holy diver installed which suounds great also. Body is alder right? and maple on the newer ones.
     
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    Yep. And the guitar they are modeled after has a thin, unfinished neck with a lightweight poplar body. :)
     
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    The Yo body was alder and at least the one I had was top-notch quality, real tonewood. I loved the tone and being a Strat guy, alder was perfect for me.

    The missing neck pickup made me sell it, but I do regret it a bit now. Especially since the prices went so totally bonkers... see these greedy b-tards here, an extreme example of such:

    http://www.ebay.de/itm/Kramer-1984-...A-NEW-NOS-very-rare-baretta-evh-/351794853645

    I both bought and sold mine for 400 EUR back then... incl. case.
     
  6. Tuborgmann

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    Yes i know. Alder and Poplar are not that different though, poplar being a bit brighter mabe. You could always shave and sand the neck if a thinner neck is preferred.
     
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    I am really digging the tone on this one as well. I paid about 500£ for it with case and BN Holy Diver installed + the original pup.
     
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    This saying has been around for longer than I've been alive! Alder is denser and brighter. Poplar is closer to basswood but actually has mids.
     
  9. Tuborgmann

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    Actually i meant to write lighter :/
     
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    Then there is alder and alder... I prefer the yellow-ish kind used in Fenders, which is to me THE best tonewood out there. The red-ish kind (as in Yo 84) sounds a bit warmer and with less "sharp" attack than the yellow one, but it's also very pleasant to the ear (both are north american Red Alder, just different parts of the tree or different aging, locations, humidity etc., no idea).

    I had several poplar axes and they definitely have their own sound, nothing like alder. Not my kind of tone either, in the end I sold all of them including the Peavey Vandenberg.
     
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    Is the 84T pickup worth giving a shot in the guitar?
     
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    Definitely, I think it's actually a re-labeled Gibson 498T. Here's a little vid of mine from 2006 with the Yo 84, straight into the amp (Crate GT50):

     
  13. KickstartMyHeart

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    I have it in my Imp RI and it sounds awesome!
     
  14. Tuborgmann

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    I just soldered it in there and it's amazing!
     
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    Funny, I've milled away all the alders and kept only poplar or maple guitars (except a couple of Les Paul's, anyway). Maple is great but poplar has a growl that I just can't get enough of!
     
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    Yeah, it is definitely a matter of taste :)
     

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